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	<title>Comments on: Automatically Unlocking the Default Gnome-Keyring : PAM Keyring</title>
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		<title>By: ivanbev</title>
		<link>http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/12/automatically-unlocking-the-default-gnome-keyring-pam-keyring/#comment-14881</link>
		<dc:creator>ivanbev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 09:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Simon - there are reasons why you may want to have password-less logins and password-less authentication of some credentials once logged in. A demonstration is a &#039;living-room&#039; system that needs to run GUI apps .. like mythtv. If you boot the machine and sit there with a remote control you don&#039;t want to have to connect a keyboard to type in your username/password; correspondingly you don&#039;t want to have to do the same for wifi SSID credentials (if you use wifi for it) ... so you want them to &quot;automatically work&quot;.

Being able to have the same keyring password as the user&#039;s login one means that, whilst it&#039;s not secure &quot;on the console&quot; in gnome, it is slightly more secure if you ssh in (because you still need the user&#039;s password &amp; the same for keyring, because this only works in gnome).

The keyring doesn&#039;t make your computer safer per-se - in some ways it does the opposite (as you only need one password/passphrase to get access to lots of accounts). You could argue that it makes stuff safer because you can then choose a difficult password/passphrase for other accounts (like banking websites, wifi SSIDs etc) and not have to remember them because you just need your master password/passphrase to unlock the keyring.

The thing to be wary of about using a keyring is that if something happens to it (eg it gets deleted or the computer crashes unrecoverably or you carry out a new install) then you lose access to those account credentials (username/password). This means you either need to backup regularly, and/or take a copy of the keyring file any time you change it (eg to USB stick), and/or keep a copy of passwords elsewhere (eg a password manager like keepass). This is the same for any kind of keyring (eg Firefox one, Thunderbird, etc). This is potentially a common problem, and I&#039;ve tried to help people recover passwords lost in this way (eg tell application to save my username/password to auto-login), so consider issues before doing that :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Simon &#8211; there are reasons why you may want to have password-less logins and password-less authentication of some credentials once logged in. A demonstration is a &#8216;living-room&#8217; system that needs to run GUI apps .. like mythtv. If you boot the machine and sit there with a remote control you don&#8217;t want to have to connect a keyboard to type in your username/password; correspondingly you don&#8217;t want to have to do the same for wifi SSID credentials (if you use wifi for it) &#8230; so you want them to &#8220;automatically work&#8221;.</p>
<p>Being able to have the same keyring password as the user&#8217;s login one means that, whilst it&#8217;s not secure &#8220;on the console&#8221; in gnome, it is slightly more secure if you ssh in (because you still need the user&#8217;s password &amp; the same for keyring, because this only works in gnome).</p>
<p>The keyring doesn&#8217;t make your computer safer per-se &#8211; in some ways it does the opposite (as you only need one password/passphrase to get access to lots of accounts). You could argue that it makes stuff safer because you can then choose a difficult password/passphrase for other accounts (like banking websites, wifi SSIDs etc) and not have to remember them because you just need your master password/passphrase to unlock the keyring.</p>
<p>The thing to be wary of about using a keyring is that if something happens to it (eg it gets deleted or the computer crashes unrecoverably or you carry out a new install) then you lose access to those account credentials (username/password). This means you either need to backup regularly, and/or take a copy of the keyring file any time you change it (eg to USB stick), and/or keep a copy of passwords elsewhere (eg a password manager like keepass). This is the same for any kind of keyring (eg Firefox one, Thunderbird, etc). This is potentially a common problem, and I&#8217;ve tried to help people recover passwords lost in this way (eg tell application to save my username/password to auto-login), so consider issues before doing that <img src='http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/12/automatically-unlocking-the-default-gnome-keyring-pam-keyring/#comment-11290</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 00:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess that if this feature is there, it&#039;s because it makes your computer safer. So the question that comes to my mind is: If I just put a blank password, isn&#039;t my computer at risk?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess that if this feature is there, it&#8217;s because it makes your computer safer. So the question that comes to my mind is: If I just put a blank password, isn&#8217;t my computer at risk?</p>
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		<title>By: No</title>
		<link>http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/12/automatically-unlocking-the-default-gnome-keyring-pam-keyring/#comment-11179</link>
		<dc:creator>No</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 02:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does not work in Lucid.

Instead go to Applications&gt;Accessories&gt;Passwords &amp; Encryption Keys
Right click on Passwords:login, set a blank password.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does not work in Lucid.</p>
<p>Instead go to Applications&gt;Accessories&gt;Passwords &amp; Encryption Keys<br />
Right click on Passwords:login, set a blank password.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/12/automatically-unlocking-the-default-gnome-keyring-pam-keyring/#comment-11086</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 23:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tried it on Ubuntu 10.10, and it doesn&#039;t work. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tried it on Ubuntu 10.10, and it doesn&#8217;t work. <img src='http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/12/automatically-unlocking-the-default-gnome-keyring-pam-keyring/#comment-11042</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 17:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1756&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Max Randor &lt;/a&gt; 
For just resolving the wifi connection without keyring password I commend to you Wicd network manager, just started using it and it does seem a lot preferable to netmanager default applet.

This workaround is not working for me yet, maybe because automatic logon is on? must investigate further....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1756" rel="nofollow">@Max Randor </a><br />
For just resolving the wifi connection without keyring password I commend to you Wicd network manager, just started using it and it does seem a lot preferable to netmanager default applet.</p>
<p>This workaround is not working for me yet, maybe because automatic logon is on? must investigate further&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: mahutchinson</title>
		<link>http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/12/automatically-unlocking-the-default-gnome-keyring-pam-keyring/#comment-9958</link>
		<dc:creator>mahutchinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no lib-pam package showing on Synaptic in Ubuntu 9.10. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no lib-pam package showing on Synaptic in Ubuntu 9.10.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/12/automatically-unlocking-the-default-gnome-keyring-pam-keyring/#comment-9406</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worked like a charm for me. I just typed sudo nano /etc/pam.d/gdm, changed @include-password to @include-pamkeyring, saved the file and reboot. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worked like a charm for me. I just typed sudo nano /etc/pam.d/gdm, changed @include-password to @include-pamkeyring, saved the file and reboot.</p>
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		<title>By: somewhat beginner</title>
		<link>http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/12/automatically-unlocking-the-default-gnome-keyring-pam-keyring/#comment-8590</link>
		<dc:creator>somewhat beginner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 00:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i also had that problem in the beginning :)  you can open a editor as root though the console, ie: sudo gedit /etc/pam.d/gdm 
my version of ubuntu (think its 8.10 but its wtth netbook remix) already had (gnome-)pam installed and adding the suggested line at the end didnt help :( . I get the keyring thing when i use auto login but not when i log in manually... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i also had that problem in the beginning <img src='http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   you can open a editor as root though the console, ie: sudo gedit /etc/pam.d/gdm<br />
my version of ubuntu (think its 8.10 but its wtth netbook remix) already had (gnome-)pam installed and adding the suggested line at the end didnt help <img src='http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  . I get the keyring thing when i use auto login but not when i log in manually&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Agent_Mulder</title>
		<link>http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/12/automatically-unlocking-the-default-gnome-keyring-pam-keyring/#comment-8511</link>
		<dc:creator>Agent_Mulder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 14:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried this procedure, but I cannot edit the gdm file, keeps telling me I do not have permissions?  Is there any way to edit this file in the gui? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried this procedure, but I cannot edit the gdm file, keeps telling me I do not have permissions?  Is there any way to edit this file in the gui?</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo</title>
		<link>http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/12/automatically-unlocking-the-default-gnome-keyring-pam-keyring/#comment-4135</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank god there was a solution to this problem.
Got the same problem as phil, but this fixed it.
Next time I&#039;ll think twice before changing passwords...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank god there was a solution to this problem.<br />
Got the same problem as phil, but this fixed it.<br />
Next time I&#8217;ll think twice before changing passwords&#8230;</p>
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