Comments on: Considering Trying KDE Again With Ubuntu 7.10 “Gutsy” http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/09/30/considering-trying-kde-again-with-ubuntu-710-gutsy/ Enhancing your Ubuntu experience! Thu, 02 Feb 2012 10:29:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: nosrednaekim http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/09/30/considering-trying-kde-again-with-ubuntu-710-gutsy/#comment-2497 nosrednaekim Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:35:16 +0000 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/?p=454#comment-2497 hey... if you have any KDE specific problems, feel free to come over to #kubuntu in IRC like nixterminal said. Very helpful and a bit more laid-back than the official ubuntu channel hey… if you have any KDE specific problems, feel free to come over to #kubuntu in IRC like nixterminal said. Very helpful and a bit more laid-back than the official ubuntu channel

]]> By: Wolfger http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/09/30/considering-trying-kde-again-with-ubuntu-710-gutsy/#comment-2500 Wolfger Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:04:10 +0000 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/?p=454#comment-2500 I'm looking forward to seeing more KDE stuff on your blog! I’m looking forward to seeing more KDE stuff on your blog!

]]> By: Jame http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/09/30/considering-trying-kde-again-with-ubuntu-710-gutsy/#comment-2499 Jame Mon, 01 Oct 2007 03:38:04 +0000 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/?p=454#comment-2499 Remember KDE4 is beta at the moment, so don't be surpised when it falls over. My advice is to run up a VirtualBox instance of Gutsy + KDE4 (download Kubuntu Gutsy ISO, install it in VirtualBox and follow the KDE4 instructions here: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php, specifically the last point to run it as a full session. tip: choose a > 4GB virtual disk :) ) and tinker away without touching your current system. A quick "$ aptitude upgrade" in the virtual system will keep you abreast of KDE4 changes. Even better, if you have a dual monitor and the VirtualBox guest additions installed you can run your current DE environment and Gutsy + KDE4 side by side - great for reviewing the different approaches to functionality in Gnome and KDE. As for the remarks that our helpful "troll" supplies, people have the freedom to choose whatever desktop they want, be it KDE, Gnome or XYZ. Childish and churlish remarks do nothing to improve the perception of Free Software and the people that make up the community. If you have nothing positive to provide I suggest you just get over whatever is eating away at you inside. All desktop environments have their problems, but nothing good is achieved by failing to implement or partake in a positive improvement process. Remember KDE4 is beta at the moment, so don’t be surpised when it falls over.

My advice is to run up a VirtualBox instance of Gutsy + KDE4 (download Kubuntu Gutsy ISO, install it in VirtualBox and follow the KDE4 instructions here: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php, specifically the last point to run it as a full session. tip: choose a > 4GB virtual disk :) ) and tinker away without touching your current system. A quick “$ aptitude upgrade” in the virtual system will keep you abreast of KDE4 changes.
Even better, if you have a dual monitor and the VirtualBox guest additions installed you can run your current DE environment and Gutsy + KDE4 side by side – great for reviewing the different approaches to functionality in Gnome and KDE.

As for the remarks that our helpful “troll” supplies, people have the freedom to choose whatever desktop they want, be it KDE, Gnome or XYZ. Childish and churlish remarks do nothing to improve the perception of Free Software and the people that make up the community. If you have nothing positive to provide I suggest you just get over whatever is eating away at you inside.

All desktop environments have their problems, but nothing good is achieved by failing to implement or partake in a positive improvement process.

]]> By: Nathan R. Hale http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/09/30/considering-trying-kde-again-with-ubuntu-710-gutsy/#comment-2498 Nathan R. Hale Mon, 01 Oct 2007 01:02:30 +0000 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/?p=454#comment-2498 I'm seriously considering a long term switch to KDE4 as well...though I'll probably wait till it's the official flavor for Kubuntu. The progress they're making looks simply amazing, and it many ways superior to what GNOME has coming down the pipe. Neverless, I'm a longtime GNOME fan & advocate...so I guess we'll have see! I’m seriously considering a long term switch to KDE4 as well…though I’ll probably wait till it’s the official flavor for Kubuntu. The progress they’re making looks simply amazing, and it many ways superior to what GNOME has coming down the pipe. Neverless, I’m a longtime GNOME fan & advocate…so I guess we’ll have see!

]]> By: Jeff Schroeder http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/09/30/considering-trying-kde-again-with-ubuntu-710-gutsy/#comment-2508 Jeff Schroeder Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:09:00 +0000 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/?p=454#comment-2508 Please don't stop with your gnome posts. Why not switch every month or so? That would actually be pretty cool. That way, you don't alienate either community. Please don’t stop with your gnome posts. Why not switch every month or so? That would actually be pretty cool.

That way, you don’t alienate either community.

]]> By: martin http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/09/30/considering-trying-kde-again-with-ubuntu-710-gutsy/#comment-2510 martin Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:21:47 +0000 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/?p=454#comment-2510 If you want to look at KDE4 you should wait for gutsy+1 because KDE4 is very alpha at the moment. the kde people are doing quite some heavy lifting.... If you want to look at KDE4 you should wait for gutsy+1 because KDE4 is very alpha at the moment. the kde people are doing quite some heavy lifting….

]]> By: Joe http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/09/30/considering-trying-kde-again-with-ubuntu-710-gutsy/#comment-2509 Joe Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:11:27 +0000 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/?p=454#comment-2509 I just switched from KDE to Gnome. ;) (And I see no reason to go back again. At least for now.) I just switched from KDE to Gnome. ;)

(And I see no reason to go back again. At least for now.)

]]> By: troll http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/09/30/considering-trying-kde-again-with-ubuntu-710-gutsy/#comment-2507 troll Sun, 30 Sep 2007 19:27:14 +0000 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/?p=454#comment-2507 If you have to learn explicitly an environment and actually ask for suggestions to get the basic things working.. The environment is inherently broken. Save your effort, stay off KDE. If you have to learn explicitly an environment and actually ask for suggestions to get the basic things working.. The environment is inherently broken. Save your effort, stay off KDE.

]]> By: Jakob Petsovits http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/09/30/considering-trying-kde-again-with-ubuntu-710-gutsy/#comment-2506 Jakob Petsovits Sun, 30 Sep 2007 19:25:30 +0000 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/?p=454#comment-2506 As a big KDE fan (although not as hype-spreading as others), I propose you hold off your 6-month KDE period to the 8.04 to 8.10 cycle. (Including the upgrade to KDE 4.1 when it happens during that time.) And the reason for that is that I want you to get the Good KDE Experience (tm) instead of the freshly baken one. KDE 4.0 is indeed great from a technological point of view, tons of breakthrough improvements on the base library front, the artwork, the usability, and a certain number of applications. However, my impression is that the KDE community is currently too busy with getting the whole stuff running without serious regressions at all, so you won't get to see most of the nifty innovations in KDE 4.0. Apart from Plasma, KDE Games and KDE Edu maybe, whereas the major part of the user visible work and porting of third party KDE applications will rather happen around the 4.1 release. KDE 4 is getting there, but at the moment it's still heavily under construction. So, while I don't want to communicate that it's not a good idea to have KDE 4.0 running (I'll certainly be doing so) I'm saying that if you only plan to spend one Ubuntu cycle on KDE 4, it should be the Hardy one instead of Gutsy. As a big KDE fan (although not as hype-spreading as others), I propose you hold off your 6-month KDE period to the 8.04 to 8.10 cycle. (Including the upgrade to KDE 4.1 when it happens during that time.) And the reason for that is that I want you to get the Good KDE Experience ™ instead of the freshly baken one.

KDE 4.0 is indeed great from a technological point of view, tons of breakthrough improvements on the base library front, the artwork, the usability, and a certain number of applications.

However, my impression is that the KDE community is currently too busy with getting the whole stuff running without serious regressions at all, so you won’t get to see most of the nifty innovations in KDE 4.0. Apart from Plasma, KDE Games and KDE Edu maybe, whereas the major part of the user visible work and porting of third party KDE applications will rather happen around the 4.1 release. KDE 4 is getting there, but at the moment it’s still heavily under construction.

So, while I don’t want to communicate that it’s not a good idea to have KDE 4.0 running (I’ll certainly be doing so) I’m saying that if you only plan to spend one Ubuntu cycle on KDE 4, it should be the Hardy one instead of Gutsy.

]]> By: nik0 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/09/30/considering-trying-kde-again-with-ubuntu-710-gutsy/#comment-2505 nik0 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 19:13:43 +0000 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/?p=454#comment-2505 I would like to welcome you onboard and joining us in improving kubuntu. You know of course that Gutsy will have the kde4 beta 3 as an option , while defaulting to kde 3.5.7. I would like to welcome you onboard and joining us in improving kubuntu. You know of course that Gutsy will have the kde4 beta 3 as an option , while defaulting to kde 3.5.7.

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