Comments on: Elaborating On My Latest Project http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/02/18/elaborating-on-my-latest-project/ Enhancing your Ubuntu experience! Fri, 11 May 2012 05:04:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: seb http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/02/18/elaborating-on-my-latest-project/#comment-3838 seb Wed, 20 Feb 2008 02:42:33 +0000 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/02/18/elaborating-on-my-latest-project/#comment-3838 to me this sounds like a "organise a portal" so that newbies (like me) can find the quickest way to either solve their problem or participate. I read lots on various sites to solve my problems or to accomplish what I like to do. Often I am not clear what I need to look for. So it would be nice to have some guidance/structure here. But is this not better done in cleaning/streamlining the current structures? to me this sounds like a “organise a portal” so that newbies (like me) can find the quickest way to either solve their problem or participate.

I read lots on various sites to solve my problems or to accomplish what I like to do. Often I am not clear what I need to look for. So it would be nice to have some guidance/structure here. But is this not better done in cleaning/streamlining the current structures?

]]> By: Marcel Hecko http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/02/18/elaborating-on-my-latest-project/#comment-3826 Marcel Hecko Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:38:49 +0000 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/02/18/elaborating-on-my-latest-project/#comment-3826 My apologies - I obviously meant Christer, not Christophe. My apologies – I obviously meant Christer, not Christophe.

]]> By: Marcel Hecko http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/02/18/elaborating-on-my-latest-project/#comment-3825 Marcel Hecko Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:34:05 +0000 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/02/18/elaborating-on-my-latest-project/#comment-3825 Guys I absolutely agree with this blog and I think what Christophe is trying to do is to create a small team of people to handle answers from the users like you two did :) You have basically proven, by responding the blog, something like this is required and that information about Ubuntu Community is simply not consistent. Christophe is talking about management mix and 4P's in managerial marketing but he probably does not know it. Guys I absolutely agree with this blog and I think what Christophe is trying to do is to create a small team of people to handle answers from the users like you two did :) You have basically proven, by responding the blog, something like this is required and that information about Ubuntu Community is simply not consistent. Christophe is talking about management mix and 4P’s in managerial marketing but he probably does not know it.

]]> By: Matthew East http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/02/18/elaborating-on-my-latest-project/#comment-3821 Matthew East Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:47:24 +0000 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/02/18/elaborating-on-my-latest-project/#comment-3821 Yes, I have to say that my initial reaction is the same as Chuck's - setting up a team to attract users to other teams sounds unhelpful and overly complicated, especially one with the level of bureaucracy that you seem to be envisaging. Teams do need some help in ensuring that they set up mentor schemes, improve their processes, use the suggestions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity, and so on. But that should be done directly with the team... At the moment we already have a community manager who works on that, assisted by his team. The Community Council is currently working on doing regular team reviews which will also assist in this area (the second part of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StreamlineMembershipApproval) Yes, I have to say that my initial reaction is the same as Chuck’s – setting up a team to attract users to other teams sounds unhelpful and overly complicated, especially one with the level of bureaucracy that you seem to be envisaging.

Teams do need some help in ensuring that they set up mentor schemes, improve their processes, use the suggestions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity, and so on. But that should be done directly with the team… At the moment we already have a community manager who works on that, assisted by his team. The Community Council is currently working on doing regular team reviews which will also assist in this area (the second part of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StreamlineMembershipApproval)

]]> By: Chuck http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/02/18/elaborating-on-my-latest-project/#comment-3819 Chuck Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:36:34 +0000 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/02/18/elaborating-on-my-latest-project/#comment-3819 This to me sounds like middle management, the kind that gets in the way. What is the problem that you are trying to solve? It seems that you want to push groups to do their 'Group Week' tracks more often and report to your group when that will happen. I think that most teams would need marketing help to promote their open week thus making this sound like a plan more suited as a subset to the marketing team rather than a new niche. Why do I need a second group to track what I am doing in the first group? If the first group cannot tell me how I am doing with my progress to MOTU (to use your example) isn't that a flaw in the MOTU world that needs fixing? Telling a user that to become a MOTU you must follow this track with these people, but to see your progress you have to come to a second arbitrary group, that will put off those who dislike layers of bureaucracy. This to me sounds like middle management, the kind that gets in the way.

What is the problem that you are trying to solve? It seems that you want to push groups to do their ‘Group Week’ tracks more often and report to your group when that will happen.

I think that most teams would need marketing help to promote their open week thus making this sound like a plan more suited as a subset to the marketing team rather than a new niche.

Why do I need a second group to track what I am doing in the first group? If the first group cannot tell me how I am doing with my progress to MOTU (to use your example) isn’t that a flaw in the MOTU world that needs fixing? Telling a user that to become a MOTU you must follow this track with these people, but to see your progress you have to come to a second arbitrary group, that will put off those who dislike layers of bureaucracy.

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