Comments on: A Root Shell On Ubuntu : The Right Way http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/ Enhancing your Ubuntu experience! Fri, 11 May 2012 05:04:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Eli the Bearded http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/#comment-15350 Eli the Bearded Thu, 19 Apr 2012 21:16:50 +0000 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/?p=637#comment-15350 "The command sudo -s is the equivalent to the 'su' command." This is a falsehood. 'su' will change to the user and run the default shell of the target user. 'sudo -s' is functionally equivilent to "sudo $SHELL": it changes to the user but runs the default shell of the calling user. For superstitious reasons I never change the default shell of the root account, but you can be sure I customize my own account extensively. And /bin/bash (or /bin/sh) is not my first choice of shell. When I want to be root, almost always want my default shell and my environment. Your tastes may vary, but I've been including settings based on the current user in my dot files since the mid-90s. “The command sudo -s is the equivalent to the ‘su’ command.”

This is a falsehood. ‘su’ will change to the user and run the default shell of the target user. ‘sudo -s’ is functionally equivilent to “sudo $SHELL”: it changes to the user but runs the default shell of the calling user.

For superstitious reasons I never change the default shell of the root account, but you can be sure I customize my own account extensively. And /bin/bash (or /bin/sh) is not my first choice of shell. When I want to be root, almost always want my default shell and my environment. Your tastes may vary, but I’ve been including settings based on the current user in my dot files since the mid-90s.

]]> By: WinSupporter http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/#comment-10041 WinSupporter Mon, 07 Dec 2009 07:08:43 +0000 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/?p=637#comment-10041 you just type in sudo avupdate while being in the directory of antivir in usr/lib and thats it. now how i will access the gui of antivir is a whoe different question, but im happy with the console version too... you just type in sudo avupdate while being in the directory of antivir in usr/lib and thats it. now how i will access the gui of antivir is a whoe different question, but im happy with the console version too…

]]> By: WinSupporter http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/#comment-10040 WinSupporter Mon, 07 Dec 2009 07:07:39 +0000 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/?p=637#comment-10040 all is well xept roswell, --> " :/usr/lib/AntiVir/gui/bin$ sudo avupdate --product='Guard' [sudo] password for st: Updating, please wait... Updated files: hbedv_key Update finished successfully" .-) all is well xept roswell,

–> " :/usr/lib/AntiVir/gui/bin$ sudo avupdate –product='Guard'
[sudo] password for st:
Updating, please wait…
Updated files:
hbedv_key
Update finished successfully" .-)

]]> By: WinSupporter http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/#comment-10039 WinSupporter Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:21:32 +0000 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/?p=637#comment-10039 uhuh, before i go into some kind of button on the right of a conqueror or so, its called oh i forgot, ill take another sip, u never know hu .-)))) cut then, suddenly a window pops up with other colors than mine, where u can access stuff under root privs. i wonder if i can execute that updater file like in that terminal... gosh my cat always miouws he is old and now has cancer.... they all wanna be taken care of, systems as well as pets and humans... i should make more ads for my support service and gain lots dough.... but until i can support linux, its a long way til you're over the top like Sly with his son in the truck.... .-))) uhuh, before i go into some kind of button on the right of a conqueror or so, its called oh i forgot, ill take another sip, u never know hu .-)))) cut then, suddenly a window pops up with other colors than mine, where u can access stuff under root privs. i wonder if i can execute that updater file like in that terminal… gosh my cat always miouws he is old and now has cancer…. they all wanna be taken care of, systems as well as pets and humans… i should make more ads for my support service and gain lots dough…. but until i can support linux, its a long way til you're over the top like Sly with his son in the truck…. .-)))

]]> By: WinSupporter http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/#comment-10038 WinSupporter Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:04:29 +0000 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/?p=637#comment-10038 its clear what you and i all wanna do. execute that avupdate under root account privileges. HOW? as many others i shout out to the net, please bring me the seven percent solution, i dont wanna search oll those millionso of acres of haystacks -- i seen the needle and the damage done, a little part of it in evryone, but evry junkie's like a settin' sun... (neill young) its clear what you and i all wanna do. execute that avupdate under root account privileges. HOW? as many others i shout out to the net, please bring me the seven percent solution, i dont wanna search oll those millionso of acres of haystacks — i seen the needle and the damage done, a little part of it in evryone, but evry junkie's like a settin' sun… (neill young)

]]> By: WinSupporter http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/#comment-10037 WinSupporter Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:00:52 +0000 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/?p=637#comment-10037 ok, I found out I just gotta use whatever commands executable in a terminal, openable by some path along the startmenu shortcuts, BUT as SOON as i try to up FRIGGIN DATE, huhu, that mister anitivir under mister kubuntu, it says oh no sireee weezer i dont give ya permission bro, nono hehe, like that: UserX@MAchineX:/usr/lib/AntiVir$ avupdate --product='Guard' Updating, please wait... Error: Open file /var/log/avupdate.log failed. Error: Permission denied userX@MachineX:/usr/lib/AntiVir$ avupdate -c --product='Guard' Checking for updates... Error: Open file /var/log/avupdate.log failed. Error: Permission denied --> as i said, rather some serious version of linux than this. Im sure there are several solutions, please post if u REALLY know one, but its all not so clear than in Win, sadly, STILL. this COULD be diffrent, just gotta find MY linux. ok, I found out I just gotta use whatever commands executable in a terminal, openable by some path along the startmenu shortcuts, BUT as SOON as i try to up FRIGGIN DATE, huhu, that mister anitivir under mister kubuntu, it says oh no sireee weezer i dont give ya permission bro, nono hehe, like that:

UserX@MAchineX:/usr/lib/AntiVir$ avupdate –product='Guard'
Updating, please wait…
Error: Open file /var/log/avupdate.log failed. Error: Permission denied
userX@MachineX:/usr/lib/AntiVir$ avupdate -c –product='Guard'
Checking for updates…
Error: Open file /var/log/avupdate.log failed. Error: Permission denied

–> as i said, rather some serious version of linux than this. Im sure there are several solutions, please post if u REALLY know one, but its all not so clear than in Win, sadly, STILL. this COULD be diffrent, just gotta find MY linux.

]]> By: WinSupporter http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/#comment-10035 WinSupporter Mon, 07 Dec 2009 04:57:13 +0000 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/?p=637#comment-10035 ok guys n gals, that guy im gonna cite now just wrote all that stuff that comes right now after - he is saying EXACTLY the PUREST system truth about (k)ubuntu. ITS THAT I ALSO asked myself when I chose some ssystems to install on my vmware 6.5. Kubuntu SEEMED like a good mod of ubuntu, which IS userfriendly, BUT WHEN you got a problem THEN u got one, for SURE, AND for goode. NOT GOODE AT ALL. I ALSO want control over my sys. HEY HEY. For a supporter, Kubuntu is a nono. Ill go into debian and mandrake or somethin. also mandriva is a crap like uschmuntu. in german "jetzt wirds mir ZU BUNTU" (Now it gets too coloured for me, adios!") --> the truth about kubuntu: " 'sudo su' makes no sense - you can't get root twice. The annoying thing in Ubuntu is, that even after I created a working root account with 'sudo passwd', i don't get a working root shell (even when "cleaning" a runlevel to have a non "X" or "kdm/gdm..." init). In Kubuntu 8.04 64bit there is no 'sbin' directory in the path. That makes it complaining about missing packages, but they are there, and makes it breaking scripts. I see no point in all this security blah blah. The standart home "play a bit around" user will normally don't loose much, even if he has to reinstall everything because he broke his system - ( and if you read all the forums out there, that's what most of them do, if they don't know any further) And the admin of a production system should know what he does, when being root because he can't do it without a proper root shell. I want to have full control over my system..." ok guys n gals, that guy im gonna cite now just wrote all that stuff that comes right now after – he is saying EXACTLY the PUREST system truth about (k)ubuntu. ITS THAT I ALSO asked myself when I chose some ssystems to install on my vmware 6.5. Kubuntu SEEMED like a good mod of ubuntu, which IS userfriendly, BUT WHEN you got a problem THEN u got one, for SURE, AND for goode. NOT GOODE AT ALL. I ALSO want control over my sys. HEY HEY. For a supporter, Kubuntu is a nono. Ill go into debian and mandrake or somethin. also mandriva is a crap like uschmuntu. in german "jetzt wirds mir ZU BUNTU" (Now it gets too coloured for me, adios!")

–> the truth about kubuntu: "

'sudo su' makes no sense – you can't get root twice.

The annoying thing in Ubuntu is, that even after I created a working root account with 'sudo passwd', i don't get a working root shell (even when "cleaning" a runlevel to have a non "X" or "kdm/gdm…" init).

In Kubuntu 8.04 64bit there is no 'sbin' directory in the path.

That makes it complaining about missing packages, but they are there, and makes it breaking scripts.

I see no point in all this security blah blah.

The standart home "play a bit around" user will normally don't loose much, even if he has to reinstall everything because he broke his system – ( and if you read all the forums out there, that's what most of them do, if they don't know any further)

And the admin of a production system should know what he does, when being root because he can't do it without a proper root shell.

I want to have full control over my system…"

]]> By: WinSupporter http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/#comment-10033 WinSupporter Mon, 07 Dec 2009 01:38:34 +0000 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/?p=637#comment-10033 oh, I really forgot to mention I am using Kubuntu under VMWARE 6.5 in WinXP64. I got Antivir in my base XP64. But I think it should also "work", in Kubuntu under VMWare, I mean Antivir in Kubuntu IS installed AND running, I just can't access it, not even thru any command as mentioned on Wiki and at other sites. I know already that the proggy is installed into usr/lib/Antivir or something. I would like to go into a shell, go into that directory, and be able to really execute commands or scripts from there. HOW? Google NOT ONE, but really MANY nights thru for that? Wont' someone... give a gun... oh, well its for my pc.... (suede, altered) oh, I really forgot to mention I am using Kubuntu under VMWARE 6.5 in WinXP64.

I got Antivir in my base XP64.

But I think it should also "work", in Kubuntu under VMWare, I mean Antivir in Kubuntu IS installed AND running, I just can't access it, not even thru any command as mentioned on Wiki and at other sites. I know already that the proggy is installed into usr/lib/Antivir or something.

I would like to go into a shell, go into that directory, and be able to really execute commands or scripts from there. HOW? Google NOT ONE, but really MANY nights thru for that? Wont' someone… give a gun… oh, well its for my pc…. (suede, altered)

]]> By: WinSupporter http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/#comment-10032 WinSupporter Mon, 07 Dec 2009 01:33:01 +0000 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/?p=637#comment-10032 I am a professional Win-PC-Supporter, know ALL tricks in Windoofus. This Linux is better than Win, but not really "good". If I would develop a system, I wouldn't ever dream of making it controllable by complex shell commands. This Linux is INTERIORALLY well-built, ordered, but the noob as well as the a LITTLE more experienced users have NO way of getting to know QUICKLY how certain CRUCIAL and TOTALLY necessary parts of the system can be accessed. Currently, I am trying (and succeeded in) installing Antivir from AVIRA. All went fine, he's even telling me the proggy is running, also the Zudoku or whatever went fine. BUT I dont SEE the program! ALL hints how to bring up one small symbol of Antivir resulted in NOTHING. Just NADA, YADA YADA happnens when I type "antivir-gui" or something. Now, ALSO, I cannot even bring up ANY shell. I downloaded Hotwire shell thru the Kubuntu-setup ( I got Kubuntu), there, nothing too. Also, the system tells me root logins are not allowed when I try to login as root. I think Linux lacks EASY transparency. You just can't see whaAAAz SAPPENIN in behind.... oh well, most win-users don't either... really many people are so paranoid in the wrong way... ... for me, in Linux, its like on a snowboard. I skied since 2 yrs old, now I monoski, but SNOWBOARD, there, I get further like 2 meters in some 10 minutes. Not used to this. Even me, world's best pc supporter. Its a long way to the top if ya wanna rockn roll.... I am a professional Win-PC-Supporter, know ALL tricks in Windoofus.

This Linux is better than Win, but not really "good". If I would develop a system, I wouldn't ever dream of making it controllable by complex shell commands. This Linux is INTERIORALLY well-built, ordered, but the noob as well as the a LITTLE more experienced users have NO way of getting to know QUICKLY how certain CRUCIAL and TOTALLY necessary parts of the system can be accessed.

Currently, I am trying (and succeeded in) installing Antivir from AVIRA. All went fine, he's even telling me the proggy is running, also the Zudoku or whatever went fine.

BUT I dont SEE the program! ALL hints how to bring up one small symbol of Antivir resulted in NOTHING. Just NADA, YADA YADA happnens when I type "antivir-gui" or something.

Now, ALSO, I cannot even bring up ANY shell. I downloaded Hotwire shell thru the Kubuntu-setup ( I got Kubuntu), there, nothing too.

Also, the system tells me root logins are not allowed when I try to login as root.

I think Linux lacks EASY transparency. You just can't see whaAAAz SAPPENIN in behind…. oh well, most win-users don't either… really many people are so paranoid in the wrong way…

… for me, in Linux, its like on a snowboard. I skied since 2 yrs old, now I monoski, but SNOWBOARD, there, I get further like 2 meters in some 10 minutes. Not used to this. Even me, world's best pc supporter. Its a long way to the top if ya wanna rockn roll….

]]> By: Paul http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/#comment-8027 Paul Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:38:18 +0000 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/?p=637#comment-8027 If you have your user environment set up the way you want/need it for sudo bash to work for you, then it doesn't matter. It is much easier to sudo -i than to spend hours or days fiddling with your env, however much fun that might be for some ubergeeks :) If you have your user environment set up the way you want/need it for sudo bash to work for you, then it doesn’t matter. It is much easier to sudo -i than to spend hours or days fiddling with your env, however much fun that might be for some ubergeeks :)

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